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		<title>Comment on How to View Art by Xochitl</title>
		<link>http://thinkingaboutmyart.com/2009/09/23/how-to-view-art/#comment-725</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 07:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was powerful. Wow... I have trouble looking at art. I always feel like I&#039;m pressured by society to speed along. Too much time, too much effort, should be spent working or doing something else &quot;productive&quot;. For quite some time I was lost within myself and I found that art, at least in an innocence form was to past the time. Of what time seem like eons. I really trying to get away from it all. I glance at art and favorite but never feel connected but with a few pieces. the ones I really like I can spend an hour to look at, whether it was a memory of how I did it, maybe it was a favorite piece of a friend of mine did. I&#039;m glad for college, it&#039;s helping me see things much deeper. Someday I will learn to love more art but for now I&#039;ll practice by myself away from galleries. Is it wise to say that I fine myself looking at things, mesmerized, its not suppose to be art but I feel like it is more than the things we label ART?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was powerful. Wow&#8230; I have trouble looking at art. I always feel like I&#8217;m pressured by society to speed along. Too much time, too much effort, should be spent working or doing something else &#8220;productive&#8221;. For quite some time I was lost within myself and I found that art, at least in an innocence form was to past the time. Of what time seem like eons. I really trying to get away from it all. I glance at art and favorite but never feel connected but with a few pieces. the ones I really like I can spend an hour to look at, whether it was a memory of how I did it, maybe it was a favorite piece of a friend of mine did. I&#8217;m glad for college, it&#8217;s helping me see things much deeper. Someday I will learn to love more art but for now I&#8217;ll practice by myself away from galleries. Is it wise to say that I fine myself looking at things, mesmerized, its not suppose to be art but I feel like it is more than the things we label ART?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Color and Abstraction: Easy Ways Out? by norma dvorsky</title>
		<link>http://thinkingaboutmyart.com/2011/01/04/color-and-abstraction-easy-ways-out/#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[norma dvorsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there&#039;s something to be said about &#039;art industry&#039; that is missing from this discussion. We live in a world engaged with the making of stuff. Somehow in my own abstract art practice, I find solace in my industry. Very simply put I know but just to add to what&#039;s here.
Also about colour. If I am attracted to let&#039;s say, &#039;yellow&#039;. It may have certain resonance for me &amp; generate quite another reaction in another viewer. That is the nature of communication &amp; memory. What do you see, when I see yellow? What do you remember from being there that night? 
Therein lies, for me, the pull to paint yellow, or blue or green &amp; add my story, my text. See it again. This way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s something to be said about &#8216;art industry&#8217; that is missing from this discussion. We live in a world engaged with the making of stuff. Somehow in my own abstract art practice, I find solace in my industry. Very simply put I know but just to add to what&#8217;s here.<br />
Also about colour. If I am attracted to let&#8217;s say, &#8216;yellow&#8217;. It may have certain resonance for me &amp; generate quite another reaction in another viewer. That is the nature of communication &amp; memory. What do you see, when I see yellow? What do you remember from being there that night?<br />
Therein lies, for me, the pull to paint yellow, or blue or green &amp; add my story, my text. See it again. This way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Color and Abstraction: Easy Ways Out? by John B.</title>
		<link>http://thinkingaboutmyart.com/2011/01/04/color-and-abstraction-easy-ways-out/#comment-679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[J.T.,
Perhaps this discussion has died; having just run across it, though, it&#039;s new to me, and I feel compelled to respond.  I hope that&#039;s okay . . . 

In particular, your phrase &quot;doing something&quot; has real resonance with me--even though I&#039;m not an artist, I&#039;m interested in the question of what Art &quot;does&quot; and where exactly that doing occurs.  As it happens, John Berger has an essay called &quot;The &lt;i&gt;Work&lt;/i&gt; of Art&quot; (in his &lt;i&gt;Selected Essays&lt;/i&gt;--though ostensibly an unhappy review of a book called &lt;i&gt;Art History and Class Consciousness&lt;/i&gt;, Berger concludes with a description of &quot;art as a potential model of freedom&quot; as &quot;the will to push&quot; (itself a nice phrase).  At least as I understand your phrase &quot;doing something,&quot; it seems that Berger is speaking to that dynamic.

Here&#039;s how Berger describes the interaction of artist with his/her materials:

&quot;When a painter is working, he is aware of the means which are available to him--these include his materials, the style he inherits, the conventions he must obey, his prescribed or freely chosen subject matter--as constituting both an opportunity and a restraint.  By working and using the opportunity he becomes conscious of some of its limits.  These limits challenge him, at either an artisanal, a magical or an imaginative level.  He pushes against one or several of them.   According to his character and historical situation, the result of his pushing varies from a barely discernible variation of a convention--changing no more than the individual voice of a singer changes a melody--to a fully original discovery, a breakthrough. [. . . . This will to push] is intrinsic to the activity of rendering the absent present, of cheating the visible, of making images.

Ideology partly determines the finished result, but it does not determine the energy flowing through the current.  And it is with this energy that the spectator identifies.  Every image used by a spectator is a &lt;i&gt;going further&lt;/i&gt; than he could have achieved alone, towards a prey, a Madonna, a sexual pleasure, a landscape, a face, a different world.&quot; (434-435)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.T.,<br />
Perhaps this discussion has died; having just run across it, though, it&#8217;s new to me, and I feel compelled to respond.  I hope that&#8217;s okay . . . </p>
<p>In particular, your phrase &#8220;doing something&#8221; has real resonance with me&#8211;even though I&#8217;m not an artist, I&#8217;m interested in the question of what Art &#8220;does&#8221; and where exactly that doing occurs.  As it happens, John Berger has an essay called &#8220;The <i>Work</i> of Art&#8221; (in his <i>Selected Essays</i>&#8211;though ostensibly an unhappy review of a book called <i>Art History and Class Consciousness</i>, Berger concludes with a description of &#8220;art as a potential model of freedom&#8221; as &#8220;the will to push&#8221; (itself a nice phrase).  At least as I understand your phrase &#8220;doing something,&#8221; it seems that Berger is speaking to that dynamic.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how Berger describes the interaction of artist with his/her materials:</p>
<p>&#8220;When a painter is working, he is aware of the means which are available to him&#8211;these include his materials, the style he inherits, the conventions he must obey, his prescribed or freely chosen subject matter&#8211;as constituting both an opportunity and a restraint.  By working and using the opportunity he becomes conscious of some of its limits.  These limits challenge him, at either an artisanal, a magical or an imaginative level.  He pushes against one or several of them.   According to his character and historical situation, the result of his pushing varies from a barely discernible variation of a convention&#8211;changing no more than the individual voice of a singer changes a melody&#8211;to a fully original discovery, a breakthrough. [. . . . This will to push] is intrinsic to the activity of rendering the absent present, of cheating the visible, of making images.</p>
<p>Ideology partly determines the finished result, but it does not determine the energy flowing through the current.  And it is with this energy that the spectator identifies.  Every image used by a spectator is a <i>going further</i> than he could have achieved alone, towards a prey, a Madonna, a sexual pleasure, a landscape, a face, a different world.&#8221; (434-435)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Site Singularity: Description and Images by J.T.</title>
		<link>http://thinkingaboutmyart.com/2010/09/24/site-singularity-desciption-and-images/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Justin,

Thanks for the kind words.  Most people thought the beams were part of an incomplete construction project.  Some thought it was a tool for fundraising... at the opening several people stuck money into the lines I cut out.  I, of course, pocketed the money as donations to the artist!

Eventually I think people came to understand - to some degree - what I was trying to do with the piece.  I think it got people to look at that specific space in a new way.  At least, I hope so!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin,</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words.  Most people thought the beams were part of an incomplete construction project.  Some thought it was a tool for fundraising&#8230; at the opening several people stuck money into the lines I cut out.  I, of course, pocketed the money as donations to the artist!</p>
<p>Eventually I think people came to understand &#8211; to some degree &#8211; what I was trying to do with the piece.  I think it got people to look at that specific space in a new way.  At least, I hope so!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Site Singularity: Description and Images by Justin Snyder</title>
		<link>http://thinkingaboutmyart.com/2010/09/24/site-singularity-desciption-and-images/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Snyder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 06:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great pictures of this show! Love the last one of the two sitting in front of the window.
I was wondering the feedback you got on what people first thought upon seeing the beams?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great pictures of this show! Love the last one of the two sitting in front of the window.<br />
I was wondering the feedback you got on what people first thought upon seeing the beams?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Color and Abstraction: Easy Ways Out? by beth</title>
		<link>http://thinkingaboutmyart.com/2011/01/04/color-and-abstraction-easy-ways-out/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The angst of the abstractionist – I know it well.

Quite possibly we - humans - are hardwired to relate to images of real things hence the popularity of recognizable subject matter. Those of us who favour abstraction may well feel on the fringe, and understandably so. We’re outnumbered, at least that’s the case in the small West Australian town I live in. I believe that pure abstraction is not easy in the same way that swimming against a current is not easy. If we have commitment to our practices, though it may sometimes falter, it will in the long run keep us going.

Regarding what abstraction contributes to society, what value does it add? Well, again, we may be hardwired to make marks, to express ourselves. Yet, we live in an overly-managed and administered culture which pushes other values, namely: If we can’t see it, it’s not there. If we can’t measure it, it’s not real. If we can’t make money from it, it’s not worthy. These thoughts can silently creep into our minds and sabotage the creative side of our selves. By being committed to pure abstraction, in a way we are engaging in a resistant act, dare I say a political one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The angst of the abstractionist – I know it well.</p>
<p>Quite possibly we &#8211; humans &#8211; are hardwired to relate to images of real things hence the popularity of recognizable subject matter. Those of us who favour abstraction may well feel on the fringe, and understandably so. We’re outnumbered, at least that’s the case in the small West Australian town I live in. I believe that pure abstraction is not easy in the same way that swimming against a current is not easy. If we have commitment to our practices, though it may sometimes falter, it will in the long run keep us going.</p>
<p>Regarding what abstraction contributes to society, what value does it add? Well, again, we may be hardwired to make marks, to express ourselves. Yet, we live in an overly-managed and administered culture which pushes other values, namely: If we can’t see it, it’s not there. If we can’t measure it, it’s not real. If we can’t make money from it, it’s not worthy. These thoughts can silently creep into our minds and sabotage the creative side of our selves. By being committed to pure abstraction, in a way we are engaging in a resistant act, dare I say a political one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Work from the Studio by beth kirkland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beth kirkland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I discovered your work while researching reductive art. Terrific to see such commitment and worthwhile discussion (and coincidentally an artist with the same surname!) I love the interplay of colour and wood in the on line series. I shall revisit regularly.

Thanks

Beth Kirkland]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered your work while researching reductive art. Terrific to see such commitment and worthwhile discussion (and coincidentally an artist with the same surname!) I love the interplay of colour and wood in the on line series. I shall revisit regularly.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Beth Kirkland</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do I Have To Lose? by Dennis J. Gervasio</title>
		<link>http://thinkingaboutmyart.com/2009/09/29/what-do-i-have-to-lose/#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis J. Gervasio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciated your views,JT, and can relate to whole-heartedtively..My work is best when I can reach , the viewers and express my art.. Its like a mini show.. I kinda think of it as &quot; Come One , Come All &quot; See  &quot; The Duct-Tape Master&#039;s ILUSSION OF PEWTER! using  ordinary Duct-tape!! It will Amaze you! Could it fool Your Eye! I like pretending in my art expressions, that I&#039;m giving people a little show ( And I am ) But I feel people want something free Kinda, and they like to be Entertained..So.. Step Right Up !! Dennis J. Gervasio]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciated your views,JT, and can relate to whole-heartedtively..My work is best when I can reach , the viewers and express my art.. Its like a mini show.. I kinda think of it as &#8221; Come One , Come All &#8221; See  &#8221; The Duct-Tape Master&#8217;s ILUSSION OF PEWTER! using  ordinary Duct-tape!! It will Amaze you! Could it fool Your Eye! I like pretending in my art expressions, that I&#8217;m giving people a little show ( And I am ) But I feel people want something free Kinda, and they like to be Entertained..So.. Step Right Up !! Dennis J. Gervasio</p>
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		<title>Comment on Color and Abstraction: Easy Ways Out? by J.T.</title>
		<link>http://thinkingaboutmyart.com/2011/01/04/color-and-abstraction-easy-ways-out/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Rob,

I was sitting down to watch my UK Wildcats play basketball online and your comment came through.  I have a few minutes before tip-off so I&#039;d like to respond.

First, thanks for the comment.  I&#039;ll address each of your points:

&quot;Are you saying that art can’t be beautiful and pleasurable?&quot;

I think what I&#039;m wondering about is if art can be &lt;em&gt;just&lt;/em&gt; beautiful and pleasurable.  Or, should it be just beautiful and pleasurable?  Should it do more than that?  I strive for beauty in my work, but I also want more from it.

&quot;If something evokes a reaction it is doing something and is contributing to the art world.&quot;

But what is it contributing, and is that enough of a contribution to make it worthwhile?

&quot;I’m not sure what your struggle is with your current abstraction work. All your work is abstract.&quot;

Some of it does more than others.  I think my holes in wood work does the most of everything I&#039;ve made.

&quot;Easy is copying or making reproductions. As long as you are making original work I’m not sure what is so easy about it.&quot;

Perhaps &quot;easier&quot; should have been my word choice...

&quot;Color isn’t easy.&quot;

For the artist, no doubt you are correct.  But for the viewer, it&#039;s much easier, I think.

Thanks again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob,</p>
<p>I was sitting down to watch my UK Wildcats play basketball online and your comment came through.  I have a few minutes before tip-off so I&#8217;d like to respond.</p>
<p>First, thanks for the comment.  I&#8217;ll address each of your points:</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you saying that art can’t be beautiful and pleasurable?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think what I&#8217;m wondering about is if art can be <em>just</em> beautiful and pleasurable.  Or, should it be just beautiful and pleasurable?  Should it do more than that?  I strive for beauty in my work, but I also want more from it.</p>
<p>&#8220;If something evokes a reaction it is doing something and is contributing to the art world.&#8221;</p>
<p>But what is it contributing, and is that enough of a contribution to make it worthwhile?</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m not sure what your struggle is with your current abstraction work. All your work is abstract.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of it does more than others.  I think my holes in wood work does the most of everything I&#8217;ve made.</p>
<p>&#8220;Easy is copying or making reproductions. As long as you are making original work I’m not sure what is so easy about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps &#8220;easier&#8221; should have been my word choice&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Color isn’t easy.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the artist, no doubt you are correct.  But for the viewer, it&#8217;s much easier, I think.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Color and Abstraction: Easy Ways Out? by Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few thoughts:
- Worry less about dichotomies, decorative v. art. Why one or the other? It can be both. Are you saying that art can&#039;t be beautiful and pleasurable?
- If something evokes a reaction it is doing something and is contributing to the art world.
- I&#039;m not sure what your struggle is with your current abstraction work. All your work is abstract.
- Easy is copying or making reproductions. As long as you are making original work I&#039;m not sure what is so easy about it.
-Worry more about your own reaction to the work and act accordingly. Do you find it interesting? Do you enjoy it? Are you just making it for someone else&#039;s approval or response? Sounds like you are struggling with people liking your work but you aren&#039;t sure about it. Are you unsure about it because people like it or because it is still immature work in your mind. If it is still immature, keep altering and playing around with it until you like it more.
- Color isn&#039;t easy.  Picking colors and arranging them to say something that makes sense is difficult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few thoughts:<br />
- Worry less about dichotomies, decorative v. art. Why one or the other? It can be both. Are you saying that art can&#8217;t be beautiful and pleasurable?<br />
- If something evokes a reaction it is doing something and is contributing to the art world.<br />
- I&#8217;m not sure what your struggle is with your current abstraction work. All your work is abstract.<br />
- Easy is copying or making reproductions. As long as you are making original work I&#8217;m not sure what is so easy about it.<br />
-Worry more about your own reaction to the work and act accordingly. Do you find it interesting? Do you enjoy it? Are you just making it for someone else&#8217;s approval or response? Sounds like you are struggling with people liking your work but you aren&#8217;t sure about it. Are you unsure about it because people like it or because it is still immature work in your mind. If it is still immature, keep altering and playing around with it until you like it more.<br />
- Color isn&#8217;t easy.  Picking colors and arranging them to say something that makes sense is difficult.</p>
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